CEIBS v/s ISB

Now this is going to draw a bigger flak especially from the students community......People will try to prove me ight or wrong at some of the points......but I just want to start a frank evaluation of the two schools.....


Student Profile:-
Profile of students at ISB is much younger and hence have less work experience. Most of the students(59% as per their brochure) at ISB are from the IT sector and 40% of those have less than 4 years experience. CEIBS has a bit balanced profile. Finance is most relevant at CIEBS having some 24% of students. Most of the studnt

Also, ISB has only 6% of non-Indians, while CIEBS has about 40% non-Chinese. Hence, student profile is more diverse at CEIBS.


Faculty:-
Though ISB boasts of having all the doctrate faculty as doctractes, faculty at CEIBS is very well connected with the Faculty and had better experience and profile than CEIBS. Both the school focus on the visiting faculty model.



Industry Interaction:-
ISB has better connection with the industry in terms of nos of people in the Governing Body. Also the profile of the people in the executive board and the Governing board is really class apart at ISB. The governing body and the industry interaction is no match at CEIBS in comparison to ISB. CEIBS really need to work hard on this front.


Clubs :-

Clubs at ISB though not as numerous at CIEBS are really involved in lot of activities. On the other hand Clubs at CEIBS cover literally every aspects of business life but are bit shallow in their activities.


Projects :-

This is one area where ISB cleary scores over CEIBS in terms of both the nos and quality of projects. Projects are further strengthened by centres such as the Wadhwani centre. This is the reason why more no of students at ISB goes for their own venture. CEIBS is yet to come out with some highly involved project activities leading to entreprenuership ventures of students.


Placements :-

CEIBS is the clear winner in this arena. Just compare the nos of jobs per student is the Highest at CEIBS (close to 5 jobs per students. Salary package at CEIBS are the same as that of ISB. Also, the profile of the firms visiting CEIBS is more diverse and strong.

At the same time ISB had some good connections with the firms such as Mkinsey, through their god father such as Rajat Gupta. CEIBS does not have any such God fathers. But they still manage to have placements far better than any other B-School on earth. Much of this had to do with the numero uno position of CEIBS in china, while ISB has to struggle with IIMS and other local indian B-Schools.


Curriculum :-
CIEBS has more industry oriented curriculum, while the curriculum of ISB is very sanwiched due to short duration of the program.


Non MBA Programs:-

ISB focuses much on short term programs such as the 3 days, 1 month sort of. CEIBS is more focused on executive education. But still the level of contact is much more at ISB than CEIBS.


Conclusion :-

ISB has much younger profile and more focussed on General Management. CEIBS has bit mature student profile and focuses a bit more on specialisations.

Now I want a frank evaluation of the schools from the points discussed above......

Relty Check - Placement Statistics at CEIBS

Well I was just thinking of the figures given on the site of CIEBS. But I was corrected by alot of people and they told me two things

1. Placements are good for Chinese students for 2 reasons

A. they have faced more stif competition for admission
B they are more skilled as they are fluent abt the langauage and culture.

2. Job scene is really bad everywhere including CEIBS........

One of the current indian student wrote to me this



"
But job scene for present batch is really very bad at CEIBS.
I know many people at CEIBS who had not been placed. Till now placements are only 25% for present batch.
So you must review your opinions about CEIBS before making any decision.
But anyway job scene is pathetic everywhere throughout the world.
So it really does not matter from where you do your MBA. You are screwed up everywhere.
"

that was close to half a month back
Well the figure has now moved to 50-60 % as I have heard from other people in CEIBS now..........Perhaps the previous fellow was not aware of the offers the Chinese have recieved off campus....and outside networks.

So, 50% is the corrected figure of the placement at CEIBS as of now.........Is it good or bad ?????

I was talking to a colleague on 25th of Mar, just a day before my CEIBS admit and he told that his batch at IIMA-PGPEX is passing out on 28th of March and he along with 80% of the batch have not recieved any placement ..and he is going back to HPCL ....our parent company.......

I mean it is really very embarrasing for him as he has not come to IIMA to go back to HPCL......I really felt very bad for him..,,,The previous batch of IIMA had one of colleague from HPCL ......he got a good placement at Cairn Energy India with a very good salary........

I meant this year is a whole new paradigm......even the elite PGP of IIMA was doled out by PSU banks.....Scene at ISB is worse than this

Same is the scene at the

Global so called M7

Wharton, Harvard and columbia have a big class size and hence the biggest trouble is there as I have heard.......Can somebody throw some light on the placements at M7???????

So, considering the above scenario ....i consider the 50% figueres at CEIBS as good.....and still stands to its reputation of No1. in the no. of job offers per student....

SWOT

Strength

Extensive Experience of 7 years
Diverse Experience in various domains – Projects, Operation, Marketing, Retailing


Weakness

Opportunities

Doing internship in India and China
China Guanghua School of Management, Peking University
(PEKING), Beijing
• • Chinese University of Hong Kong (CUHK), Hong Kong
• China Europe International Business School (CEIBS), Shanghai
India • Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad (IIMA),
Ahmedabad
• Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore (IIMB), Bangalore
Indian School of Business (ISB), Hyderabad

Singapore • Nanyang Business School (NBS), Singapore
• National University of Singapore (NUS), Singapore
Leveraging CFP