Last 2 years have been wonderful journey. I went to CEIBS for my MBA with both sweet and bitter experience. This included a brief stint of 5 months to US at Kenan Flagler Business School, University of North Carolina.
From last 2 years, I have been away from the regular hectic life of being in a job and doing something which you do not enjoy sometimes. Last 2 years were bit unique in the sense that I was doing only what I really want to do. For Example - I did 3 internships during my MBA and 4th just after my MBA. This is sort of a record but I really liked working on these small projects. I believe that I have created strong impact in 2 of my internships.
This made me to realize that this unemployment of last 2 years have made me to realize something unique about me that I yearn for and enjoy creating impact. The next big challenge would be to maintain the same enthusiasm of creating impact in short span of time, when I join a new job.
I thank my luck for being unemployed for last 2 years.
Showing posts with label CEIBS. Show all posts
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Wednesday, June 24, 2009
CEIBS v/s ISB
Now this is going to draw a bigger flak especially from the students community......People will try to prove me ight or wrong at some of the points......but I just want to start a frank evaluation of the two schools.....
Student Profile:-
Profile of students at ISB is much younger and hence have less work experience. Most of the students(59% as per their brochure) at ISB are from the IT sector and 40% of those have less than 4 years experience. CEIBS has a bit balanced profile. Finance is most relevant at CIEBS having some 24% of students. Most of the studnt
Also, ISB has only 6% of non-Indians, while CIEBS has about 40% non-Chinese. Hence, student profile is more diverse at CEIBS.
Faculty:-
Though ISB boasts of having all the doctrate faculty as doctractes, faculty at CEIBS is very well connected with the Faculty and had better experience and profile than CEIBS. Both the school focus on the visiting faculty model.
Industry Interaction:-
ISB has better connection with the industry in terms of nos of people in the Governing Body. Also the profile of the people in the executive board and the Governing board is really class apart at ISB. The governing body and the industry interaction is no match at CEIBS in comparison to ISB. CEIBS really need to work hard on this front.
Clubs :-
Clubs at ISB though not as numerous at CIEBS are really involved in lot of activities. On the other hand Clubs at CEIBS cover literally every aspects of business life but are bit shallow in their activities.
Projects :-
This is one area where ISB cleary scores over CEIBS in terms of both the nos and quality of projects. Projects are further strengthened by centres such as the Wadhwani centre. This is the reason why more no of students at ISB goes for their own venture. CEIBS is yet to come out with some highly involved project activities leading to entreprenuership ventures of students.
Placements :-
CEIBS is the clear winner in this arena. Just compare the nos of jobs per student is the Highest at CEIBS (close to 5 jobs per students. Salary package at CEIBS are the same as that of ISB. Also, the profile of the firms visiting CEIBS is more diverse and strong.
At the same time ISB had some good connections with the firms such as Mkinsey, through their god father such as Rajat Gupta. CEIBS does not have any such God fathers. But they still manage to have placements far better than any other B-School on earth. Much of this had to do with the numero uno position of CEIBS in china, while ISB has to struggle with IIMS and other local indian B-Schools.
Curriculum :-
CIEBS has more industry oriented curriculum, while the curriculum of ISB is very sanwiched due to short duration of the program.
Non MBA Programs:-
ISB focuses much on short term programs such as the 3 days, 1 month sort of. CEIBS is more focused on executive education. But still the level of contact is much more at ISB than CEIBS.
Conclusion :-
ISB has much younger profile and more focussed on General Management. CEIBS has bit mature student profile and focuses a bit more on specialisations.
Now I want a frank evaluation of the schools from the points discussed above......
Student Profile:-
Profile of students at ISB is much younger and hence have less work experience. Most of the students(59% as per their brochure) at ISB are from the IT sector and 40% of those have less than 4 years experience. CEIBS has a bit balanced profile. Finance is most relevant at CIEBS having some 24% of students. Most of the studnt
Also, ISB has only 6% of non-Indians, while CIEBS has about 40% non-Chinese. Hence, student profile is more diverse at CEIBS.
Faculty:-
Though ISB boasts of having all the doctrate faculty as doctractes, faculty at CEIBS is very well connected with the Faculty and had better experience and profile than CEIBS. Both the school focus on the visiting faculty model.
Industry Interaction:-
ISB has better connection with the industry in terms of nos of people in the Governing Body. Also the profile of the people in the executive board and the Governing board is really class apart at ISB. The governing body and the industry interaction is no match at CEIBS in comparison to ISB. CEIBS really need to work hard on this front.
Clubs :-
Clubs at ISB though not as numerous at CIEBS are really involved in lot of activities. On the other hand Clubs at CEIBS cover literally every aspects of business life but are bit shallow in their activities.
Projects :-
This is one area where ISB cleary scores over CEIBS in terms of both the nos and quality of projects. Projects are further strengthened by centres such as the Wadhwani centre. This is the reason why more no of students at ISB goes for their own venture. CEIBS is yet to come out with some highly involved project activities leading to entreprenuership ventures of students.
Placements :-
CEIBS is the clear winner in this arena. Just compare the nos of jobs per student is the Highest at CEIBS (close to 5 jobs per students. Salary package at CEIBS are the same as that of ISB. Also, the profile of the firms visiting CEIBS is more diverse and strong.
At the same time ISB had some good connections with the firms such as Mkinsey, through their god father such as Rajat Gupta. CEIBS does not have any such God fathers. But they still manage to have placements far better than any other B-School on earth. Much of this had to do with the numero uno position of CEIBS in china, while ISB has to struggle with IIMS and other local indian B-Schools.
Curriculum :-
CIEBS has more industry oriented curriculum, while the curriculum of ISB is very sanwiched due to short duration of the program.
Non MBA Programs:-
ISB focuses much on short term programs such as the 3 days, 1 month sort of. CEIBS is more focused on executive education. But still the level of contact is much more at ISB than CEIBS.
Conclusion :-
ISB has much younger profile and more focussed on General Management. CEIBS has bit mature student profile and focuses a bit more on specialisations.
Now I want a frank evaluation of the schools from the points discussed above......
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
CEIBS campus in Ghana
Capitalising on the campaign of the chinese Govt for the Chinese companies to look at Africa as future Market for Growth, CEIBS has opened the Ghana Campus..
Main focus will def be the companies looking forward to expand sourcing and markets in Africa.
Main focus will def be the companies looking forward to expand sourcing and markets in Africa.
Tuesday, May 05, 2009
Big Surpursie - TShingua
Got Saurabh283 .........thats how name are addressed in gmail.....
he is going to TShinghua for MBA. I was just going through the Career report of Tshingua....filled with a lot of surpurises..........
ABB
Accenture
AIU Insurance*
Alstom
Bayer Material Science
BOC International
Boshi Fund
Carrefour
China Export & Credit Insurance
China Merchants Bank
China Southern Air
CICC
CIMC
CNOOC*
Dagong Credit*
Datang Mobile
Dazhong Electric Appliance*
Dell
Deutsche Bank
Digital China
Dongfeng Nissan*
DTT
Emerson*
Ernst & Young
Ford Motor
GE
GM
Hana Bank
Huawei
Hutchison Whampoa
IBM
Johnson&Johnson
KPMG
McKinsey & Company*
Microsoft
Novo Nordisk
PICC
PricewaterhouseCoopers
Reuters
Samsung*
SAP
Schneider Electric
Siemens
Sinopec*
SWIFT
Taikang Life*
Tellhow
The People's Bank of China
UBS AG
Xi'an Janssen
Yantian International Container Terminals
A long list of 51 companies. and that too so many firms with star (3 or more students.)
Following are the companies, which are doing mass recruitment from TShingua.
1 AIU Insurance*
2 CNOOC*
3 Dagong Credit*
4 Dazhong Electric Appliance*
5 Dongfeng Nissan*
6 Emerson*
7 McKinsey & Company*
8 Samsung*
9 Sinopec*
10 Taikang Life*
Well atleast some of these 10 are really exciting and they are not recruitment in mass from CIEBS.
Well, is CEIBS lacking a bit in marketing front ........CIEBS ppl seems to be sleeping at this.............
A big question. - Any answers........
he is going to TShinghua for MBA. I was just going through the Career report of Tshingua....filled with a lot of surpurises..........
ABB
Accenture
AIU Insurance*
Alstom
Bayer Material Science
BOC International
Boshi Fund
Carrefour
China Export & Credit Insurance
China Merchants Bank
China Southern Air
CICC
CIMC
CNOOC*
Dagong Credit*
Datang Mobile
Dazhong Electric Appliance*
Dell
Deutsche Bank
Digital China
Dongfeng Nissan*
DTT
Emerson*
Ernst & Young
Ford Motor
GE
GM
Hana Bank
Huawei
Hutchison Whampoa
IBM
Johnson&Johnson
KPMG
McKinsey & Company*
Microsoft
Novo Nordisk
PICC
PricewaterhouseCoopers
Reuters
Samsung*
SAP
Schneider Electric
Siemens
Sinopec*
SWIFT
Taikang Life*
Tellhow
The People's Bank of China
UBS AG
Xi'an Janssen
Yantian International Container Terminals
A long list of 51 companies. and that too so many firms with star (3 or more students.)
Following are the companies, which are doing mass recruitment from TShingua.
1 AIU Insurance*
2 CNOOC*
3 Dagong Credit*
4 Dazhong Electric Appliance*
5 Dongfeng Nissan*
6 Emerson*
7 McKinsey & Company*
8 Samsung*
9 Sinopec*
10 Taikang Life*
Well atleast some of these 10 are really exciting and they are not recruitment in mass from CIEBS.
Well, is CEIBS lacking a bit in marketing front ........CIEBS ppl seems to be sleeping at this.............
A big question. - Any answers........
Wednesday, April 08, 2009
Relty Check - Placement Statistics at CEIBS
Well I was just thinking of the figures given on the site of CIEBS. But I was corrected by alot of people and they told me two things
1. Placements are good for Chinese students for 2 reasons
A. they have faced more stif competition for admission
B they are more skilled as they are fluent abt the langauage and culture.
2. Job scene is really bad everywhere including CEIBS........
One of the current indian student wrote to me this
"
But job scene for present batch is really very bad at CEIBS.
I know many people at CEIBS who had not been placed. Till now placements are only 25% for present batch.
So you must review your opinions about CEIBS before making any decision.
But anyway job scene is pathetic everywhere throughout the world.
So it really does not matter from where you do your MBA. You are screwed up everywhere.
"
that was close to half a month back
Well the figure has now moved to 50-60 % as I have heard from other people in CEIBS now..........Perhaps the previous fellow was not aware of the offers the Chinese have recieved off campus....and outside networks.
So, 50% is the corrected figure of the placement at CEIBS as of now.........Is it good or bad ?????
I was talking to a colleague on 25th of Mar, just a day before my CEIBS admit and he told that his batch at IIMA-PGPEX is passing out on 28th of March and he along with 80% of the batch have not recieved any placement ..and he is going back to HPCL ....our parent company.......
I mean it is really very embarrasing for him as he has not come to IIMA to go back to HPCL......I really felt very bad for him..,,,The previous batch of IIMA had one of colleague from HPCL ......he got a good placement at Cairn Energy India with a very good salary........
I meant this year is a whole new paradigm......even the elite PGP of IIMA was doled out by PSU banks.....Scene at ISB is worse than this
Same is the scene at the
Global so called M7
Wharton, Harvard and columbia have a big class size and hence the biggest trouble is there as I have heard.......Can somebody throw some light on the placements at M7???????
So, considering the above scenario ....i consider the 50% figueres at CEIBS as good.....and still stands to its reputation of No1. in the no. of job offers per student....
1. Placements are good for Chinese students for 2 reasons
A. they have faced more stif competition for admission
B they are more skilled as they are fluent abt the langauage and culture.
2. Job scene is really bad everywhere including CEIBS........
One of the current indian student wrote to me this
"
But job scene for present batch is really very bad at CEIBS.
I know many people at CEIBS who had not been placed. Till now placements are only 25% for present batch.
So you must review your opinions about CEIBS before making any decision.
But anyway job scene is pathetic everywhere throughout the world.
So it really does not matter from where you do your MBA. You are screwed up everywhere.
"
that was close to half a month back
Well the figure has now moved to 50-60 % as I have heard from other people in CEIBS now..........Perhaps the previous fellow was not aware of the offers the Chinese have recieved off campus....and outside networks.
So, 50% is the corrected figure of the placement at CEIBS as of now.........Is it good or bad ?????
I was talking to a colleague on 25th of Mar, just a day before my CEIBS admit and he told that his batch at IIMA-PGPEX is passing out on 28th of March and he along with 80% of the batch have not recieved any placement ..and he is going back to HPCL ....our parent company.......
I mean it is really very embarrasing for him as he has not come to IIMA to go back to HPCL......I really felt very bad for him..,,,The previous batch of IIMA had one of colleague from HPCL ......he got a good placement at Cairn Energy India with a very good salary........
I meant this year is a whole new paradigm......even the elite PGP of IIMA was doled out by PSU banks.....Scene at ISB is worse than this
Same is the scene at the
Global so called M7
Wharton, Harvard and columbia have a big class size and hence the biggest trouble is there as I have heard.......Can somebody throw some light on the placements at M7???????
So, considering the above scenario ....i consider the 50% figueres at CEIBS as good.....and still stands to its reputation of No1. in the no. of job offers per student....
CEIBS Admit Mail
Well this mail was really special to me and was conveyed to me by honey.....she woke me up ....when i was still strugling in my dreams between the various options of Schools from which i would have done my Masters / MBA if CEIBS had not materilised..........HKU / HKUST / NTU / Schulich / Lancaster / MIT (MLOG) / Kellog (MMM)....
Well CEIBS removed all the tui pu tui (to or not to in chinese) ...............
This mail really changed a lot in my life......
Monday, March 23, 2009 6:26 PM
Dear ABC,
We’re very happy to inform that you have been admitted to the 2009 intake of CEIBS MBA Programme. Congratulations, and a very warm welcome from all of us at CEIBS.
Please understand that this offer is conditional, requiring that you take the CEIBS pre-course in Chinese prior to enrollment. We are sure that the pre-course will give you a good start to learning Mandarin, and, at the same time, help you adapt to the new environment more easily.
You will receive from MBA Admissions Office an official letter with all detailed information soon. Please follow the procedures stipulated in the letter to confirm your enrolment.
With Best Regards,
MBA Admissions Office
China Europe International Business School (CEIBS)
Well CEIBS removed all the tui pu tui (to or not to in chinese) ...............
This mail really changed a lot in my life......
Monday, March 23, 2009 6:26 PM
Dear ABC,
We’re very happy to inform that you have been admitted to the 2009 intake of CEIBS MBA Programme. Congratulations, and a very warm welcome from all of us at CEIBS.
Please understand that this offer is conditional, requiring that you take the CEIBS pre-course in Chinese prior to enrollment. We are sure that the pre-course will give you a good start to learning Mandarin, and, at the same time, help you adapt to the new environment more easily.
You will receive from MBA Admissions Office an official letter with all detailed information soon. Please follow the procedures stipulated in the letter to confirm your enrolment.
With Best Regards,
MBA Admissions Office
China Europe International Business School (CEIBS)
Submitted fees for CEIBS
Well after 3 long years, I am finally going to a B School. This is really an emotional moment for me. The most surpurising thing is the school to which I am going.
Its CEIBS - China Europe International Business School.
I had just wired 5000 USD as my admit confirmation and my heart is pounding. I am finally going there.
A lot of things went in between and that too very fast. Albeit after getting the CEIBS admit, life really seemed to be settled but alas it was just a moment of euphorbia as within the next second I realised that there are a ton of assignments to be completed before finally moving to Pudong ( East Shanghai where the school is located).
Most important among them includes
1. Arranging for funds....some how my wife is convinced that we wont be making our life hell by commiting to a bank loan.......
Options : parents, friends and well wishers.
2. Putting in my papers at HPCL - well there are a couple of issues for which I never bothered at HPCL, but now I am straight to it and want to collect out and juice out the last penny and knowledge from HPCL.
3. Going for a vacation :- Yes this also very important on my list of to dos..We havent gone for a long vacation for a long time. It has been more than one year down the line since we went to Singapore and Malaysia......Hence, I am planning for a good leisure trip
4. Fmaily :- Things are really not in good shape. Recesssion and couple of bad investments forced us to suffer heavy loss esp the Transportation business...
Really need to settle some of the thing including funds in the family.......at least that will gimme a piece of mind during my MBA
5. Chinese / CFP / Blah Blah :- God I m really scared, where i will find the time to pay attention to these otherwise important things......I mean i could give them only the 5th priority to my list....
In addition to this there are hordes of other things to do such as networking with people for internship and other resources in PRC. I wish I had more time with me before I am onboard to Shangai
Its CEIBS - China Europe International Business School.
I had just wired 5000 USD as my admit confirmation and my heart is pounding. I am finally going there.
A lot of things went in between and that too very fast. Albeit after getting the CEIBS admit, life really seemed to be settled but alas it was just a moment of euphorbia as within the next second I realised that there are a ton of assignments to be completed before finally moving to Pudong ( East Shanghai where the school is located).
Most important among them includes
1. Arranging for funds....some how my wife is convinced that we wont be making our life hell by commiting to a bank loan.......
Options : parents, friends and well wishers.
2. Putting in my papers at HPCL - well there are a couple of issues for which I never bothered at HPCL, but now I am straight to it and want to collect out and juice out the last penny and knowledge from HPCL.
3. Going for a vacation :- Yes this also very important on my list of to dos..We havent gone for a long vacation for a long time. It has been more than one year down the line since we went to Singapore and Malaysia......Hence, I am planning for a good leisure trip
4. Fmaily :- Things are really not in good shape. Recesssion and couple of bad investments forced us to suffer heavy loss esp the Transportation business...
Really need to settle some of the thing including funds in the family.......at least that will gimme a piece of mind during my MBA
5. Chinese / CFP / Blah Blah :- God I m really scared, where i will find the time to pay attention to these otherwise important things......I mean i could give them only the 5th priority to my list....
In addition to this there are hordes of other things to do such as networking with people for internship and other resources in PRC. I wish I had more time with me before I am onboard to Shangai
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
2009 B-Schools Placements
Well found a very interesting link about the current economic scenario and its effect on the B-Schools....
http://blog.accepted.com/display/ShowJournal?moduleId=183762&categoryId=53975
New Job Prospects for MBA Grads
In "New Horizons for MBAs", the Financial Times, reports that many MBA students are looking outside of traditional "MBA jobs" for work. Due to the current recession, job opportunities in financial services and investment banks are far more limited and MBAs are looking to use their skills in other fields.
Some interesting job recruitment statistics from around the world:
The number of job offers in the U.S. is down 10-20%.
At CEIBS in Shanghai, 40% of students had signed offers at this time last year, compared to 27% this year.
At HBS, job postings are down by 25%; 77% of the 2009 class still have job offers.
At Chicago Booth, approximately 66% of students have job offers, down from 70% last year.
At INSEAD, asking alumni about MBA-appropriate job vacancies, produced 200 job postings.
http://blog.accepted.com/display/ShowJournal?moduleId=183762&categoryId=53975
New Job Prospects for MBA Grads
In "New Horizons for MBAs", the Financial Times, reports that many MBA students are looking outside of traditional "MBA jobs" for work. Due to the current recession, job opportunities in financial services and investment banks are far more limited and MBAs are looking to use their skills in other fields.
Some interesting job recruitment statistics from around the world:
The number of job offers in the U.S. is down 10-20%.
At CEIBS in Shanghai, 40% of students had signed offers at this time last year, compared to 27% this year.
At HBS, job postings are down by 25%; 77% of the 2009 class still have job offers.
At Chicago Booth, approximately 66% of students have job offers, down from 70% last year.
At INSEAD, asking alumni about MBA-appropriate job vacancies, produced 200 job postings.
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